Question Cloning

ThaiMike

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Nub Question that maybe an seasonal grower could answer. Once I clone an plant, can i flip the light 12/12 FLOWER for 2 week to tell me the gender?
 

Joheim

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You can... but they will need time to adjust back to veg, which can take 4-6 weeks, if you're intending on re- vegging your cuts. I've met growers that flower their sexing cuts and ice met growers that just toss them.
 

Jason

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🤠 if you take a clone from a female your clone will be female 🧙‍♂️
Agreed, I've only taken clones from "Mother plants" and leave the sexing for seeds. I do get the idea of taking cuts and sexing them to determine sex of the vegging parent but have never done it that way. The Critical Amnesia I'm currently growing is a clone from one I grew earlier this year. I gave a few cuts to my buddy, he vegged them outside and gave me one back a few months later when they started to flower. My indoor donor was just finished at that point. He has several going and recently brought them inside to finish. Big gnarly buds! My biggest drawback has been not vegging my clones long enough indoors before flipping so my yields have always been smaller. I've also read clones do not yield as much or grow as vigorous as growing from seed does. It seems if done properly it can be very productive though.

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Hemp Knight

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There is an easy way to sex your seeds before planting. It’s not 100% accurate but about 75-85%.
On the seed there is a pointy end and a blunt end. On the blunt end should be a divot.
If the divot is circular, you most likely have a female (example in picture provided). If it’s misshapen or very jagged looking, it’s most likely a male.
 

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Varinaut

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There is an easy way to sex your seeds before planting. It’s not 100% accurate but about 75-85%.
On the seed there is a pointy end and a blunt end. On the blunt end should be a divot.
If the divot is circular, you most likely have a female (example in picture provided). If it’s misshapen or very jagged looking, it’s most likely a male.

While this advice is no doubt well intentioned, it has absolutely no scientific basis. Your success rate identifying sex using this method will pretty much match the natural female/male ratio and you will throw out half of your perfectly good females and grow out half of the males.

Noobs: Please don't buy into this myth.
 

Hemp Knight

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While this advice is no doubt well intentioned, it has absolutely no scientific basis. Your success rate identifying sex using this method will pretty much match the natural female/male ratio and you will throw out half of your perfectly good females and grow out half of the males.

Noobs: Please don't buy into this myth.
Haven’t had it let me down yet, must just be lucky then. 300+ mother plants planted, at least 5000 clones made, only 2 males so far. Must have stepped on a leprechaun.
 

Varinaut

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Haven’t had it let me down yet, must just be lucky then. 300+ mother plants planted, at least 5000 clones made, only 2 males so far. Must have stepped on a leprechaun.

Ahhh... the voice of confidence; I'm all over this opportunity. Tell you what, I'll send you 20 seeds, you parse out the males from the females using your magical power, and send them back. I, or some impartial party, grows them out to check your accuracy. If you are 80% or better, I'll send you $100. If not, you've wasted my time and owe me $50.

How sure are you?
 

Hemp Knight

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Ahhh... the voice of confidence; I'm all over this opportunity. Tell you what, I'll send you 20 seeds, you parse out the males from the females using your magical power, and send them back. I, or some impartial party, grows them out to check your accuracy. If you are 80% or better, I'll send you $100. If not, you've wasted my time and owe me $50.

How sure are you?
Sounds good to me, quick question for you. How many plants can you fit in a 5 gallon bucket? 1?2?3? Fully grown.
 

Hemp Knight

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Ahhh... the voice of confidence; I'm all over this opportunity. Tell you what, I'll send you 20 seeds, you parse out the males from the females using your magical power, and send them back. I, or some impartial party, grows them out to check your accuracy. If you are 80% or better, I'll send you $100. If not, you've wasted my time and owe me $50.

How sure are you?
I’m tryin’ man…
 

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I can get 160-182 geez off of a 5 gallon bucket in 3.25-3.5 months. That’s from when clone shows the bare minimum (swelling + bumps) to harvest. Can you get a clone in a 5 gallon bucket to output that much in that amount of time? I’m really not being cynical, I’m trying to see if that’s a possibility? @Varinaut
 

Hemp Knight

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I can get 160-182 geez off of a 5 gallon bucket in 3.25-3.5 months. That’s from when clone shows the bare minimum (swelling + bumps) to harvest. Can you get a clone in a 5 gallon bucket to output that much in that amount of time? I’m really not being cynical, I’m trying to see if that’s a possibility? @Varinaut
Day 1 in flower, need to clean them up in the next day or so. Hindu Kush and forbidden fruit x Chemdawg
 

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Hemp Knight

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Did you know you can cut your plant down, at the bottom of the stock, weight it as is, then multiply by 10% to figure out your final weight ( roughly) can be upwards of 15% as a multiplication factor if you have a dense cola ridden plant.
 

Alphatoy

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There is an easy way to sex your seeds before planting. It’s not 100% accurate but about 75-85%.
On the seed there is a pointy end and a blunt end. On the blunt end should be a divot.
If the divot is circular, you most likely have a female (example in picture provided). If it’s misshapen or very jagged looking, it’s most likely a male.
🤠 I have been using this method myself fo 3 0r 4 years and have had 98% effect it is called the Volcano System 🧙‍♂️
Videos of Picking a female Cannabis Seed With The Volcano System
 

dualityshift

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Did you know you can cut your plant down, at the bottom of the stock, weight it as is, then multiply by 10% to figure out your final weight ( roughly) can be upwards of 15% as a multiplication factor if you have a dense cola ridden plant.
This makes no sense. Your flowers lose weight, not gain it during the dry and cure. Dividing by 10 doesn't work either. There's a bigger loss of water weight than that.

So whoever told you this is either stupid or intentionally messing with you.
 

Hemp Knight

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So let’s say you cut your plant down with everything left on it and it, in total, weighs 454 grams. 454 x 10% equals a total of 45.4 grams of dry weight. It may be off by a little but I’ve been using it for years, so I guess I’m stupid.
 

dualityshift

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10% returns on your plant is still off. Properly dried and cured weed will weigh from 17-25% of the original "wet" weight.
 

Hemp Knight

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The whole plant including the fan leaves, that’s the reason I said just chop it down and weigh it. Then multiply by 10 percent.
 


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