Gen. II Phenotypes (Wreckage X Master Kush)

Ras Mountain

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So getting to the final couple of weeks in this round and am shocked at the radical variety of traits expressed from plant to plant. Though they're undoubtedly cousins, each seed from this batch can throw wildly different scents - from gassy pine, to sage, to bubblegum.

I am unable to judge which one is superior.

Though there are noticeable differences in structure, I'm tempted to lean for the indica dominant pheno to bump yields this time. That said - I gotta say, the shorter looking sativa plant in pic 2 is going to be the headiest of them all! Sooo citrusy. And those foxtails... You can tell there's some Thai in her.

Pic 3 is the Kush pheno, and Pic 4 is very much like the classic Wreckage strain that I began with.

It's a delight to receive such a diverse bouquet of aroma. I don't know what to call it, but not only is it some of the best weed I've ever grown, it completely destroys most any mass-produced dispensary mediocre cannabis. This is Medicine! I can Feel it! And I'm not stoned to oblivion either - just in euphoric contemplation of the Origins and history and maybe some munchies to accompany that. This is a great cerebral experience. Although it tends to cause the side effect of red eyes, so gotta watch for that in public.
 

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Ras Mountain

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Got some new shots.
 

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Sativa Kid

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So getting to the final couple of weeks in this round and am shocked at the radical variety of traits expressed from plant to plant. Though they're undoubtedly cousins, each seed from this batch can throw wildly different scents - from gassy pine, to sage, to bubblegum.

I am unable to judge which one is superior.

Though there are noticeable differences in structure, I'm tempted to lean for the indica dominant pheno to bump yields this time. That said - I gotta say, the shorter looking sativa plant in pic 2 is going to be the headiest of them all! Sooo citrusy. And those foxtails... You can tell there's some Thai in her.

Pic 3 is the Kush pheno, and Pic 4 is very much like the classic Wreckage strain that I began with.

It's a delight to receive such a diverse bouquet of aroma. I don't know what to call it, but not only is it some of the best weed I've ever grown, it completely destroys most any mass-produced dispensary mediocre cannabis. This is Medicine! I can Feel it! And I'm not stoned to oblivion either - just in euphoric contemplation of the Origins and history and maybe some munchies to accompany that. This is a great cerebral experience. Although it tends to cause the side effect of red eyes, so gotta watch for that in public.
I had 1 strain that had 3 pheno's. I lost all my pictures or I would show it. So radically different you wouldn't believe it. It appears there is a gene affecting leaf width. Because 2 phenos come with extremely sativa long skinny leaves and one comes with a wide leaf. Exact same chemotype but different leaf shape and flowering time. The preferred Pheno had a higher resin content, wider leaves and a only 11 weeks flowering instead of 14.
 

Ras Mountain

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I'm willing to bet that most 'strains' today are more accurately unstable hybrids having influences from several sets of ancestry. Why is it that so many legendary strains are clone-only? This can be viewed with optimism for those having the patience to sift through the dirt for the diamond, but it takes greater effort (several generations) to isolate and homogenize a strain to the point of genetic distinction.

These plants are truly mutts at this point, I don't think I could really tell how many parents they have or what exactly they are. My strategy from the get-go was never to become infatuated with a name, but to select for taste, effect, and structure. To keep all my favorite plants, I cross them into the same pool, select the progeny that performs, and repeat.

The result is desirable weed with potential, but needs further refining if I'm going to call it a strain. Two more generations at least for anything consistent.

I'm sure if I gave you a handful of the seeds now, we'd each have two different strains in a year. Hooray diversity!
 
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Alphatoy

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I'm willing to bet that most 'strains' today are more accurately unstable hybrids having influences from several sets of ancestry. Why is it that so many legendary strains are clone-only? This can be viewed with optimism for those having the patience to sift through the dirt for the diamond, but it takes greater effort (several generations) to isolate and homogenize a strain to the point of genetic distinction.

These plants are truly mutts at this point, I don't think I could really tell how many parents they have or what exactly they are. My strategy from the get-go was never to become infatuated with a name, but to select for taste, effect, and structure. To keep all my favorite plants, I cross them into the same pool, select the progeny that performs, and repeat.

The result is desirable weed with potential, but needs further refining if I'm going to call it a strain. Two more generations at least for anything consistent.

I'm sure if I gave you a handful of the seeds now, we'd each have two different strains in a year. Hooray diversity!
?Hey if your giving out handfuls I'll take a handful :mask: ?
 

Ras Mountain

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For sure, it would be terrific to have a peer review to give perspective! I can't say any of these observations are objective without proof, can I?

Seriously, it would be a great gift to have another's input. I'd be more than happy to send some your way Alpha.

Just be aware, these are regular. Male plants will present themselves too.
 
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Sativa Kid

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I'm willing to bet that most 'strains' today are more accurately unstable hybrids having influences from several sets of ancestry. Why is it that so many legendary strains are clone-only? This can be viewed with optimism for those having the patience to sift through the dirt for the diamond, but it takes greater effort (several generations) to isolate and homogenize a strain to the point of genetic distinction.

These plants are truly mutts at this point, I don't think I could really tell how many parents they have or what exactly they are. My strategy from the get-go was never to become infatuated with a name, but to select for taste, effect, and structure. To keep all my favorite plants, I cross them into the same pool, select the progeny that performs, and repeat.

The result is desirable weed with potential, but needs further refining if I'm going to call it a strain. Two more generations at least for anything consistent.

I'm sure if I gave you a handful of the seeds now, we'd each have two different strains in a year. Hooray diversity!
Ultimately God created the plant with genes to be turned off and on, so slowly turning certain options on is what happens in a Landrace. A strain is just what genes off and on simply put. If you like a phenotype just rebreed it a few times with regular seeds then and then make the Feminized seeds from this selected Phenotype. I say this because the problem with the super strains is the herming is bred in. Most of these strains have been products of many feminized lines and people are just not honest. I'm certain of this even though I'm not an expert. If I'm wrong I will gratefully eat Crow in the name of me learning.
 

Ras Mountain

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As it's been said, if you want it done right, had better do it yourself. Else, who knows what's real? This arena is favorable to small-scale farmers with time, not mega-corporations who need to grow the most, and fastest.

A great seed is diminished by greed.
 
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Ras Mountain

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? Chopped. I couldn't wait any longer to get to the next round. I need healthy plants for this project. ?

The fems are identified, no need to hunt from this point. I can use some mothers, SCROG the clones and pull some real weight. All I did was leave the bottom of each plant, and trim the roots from the net pot before transfer from dwc to 2 gal. pots and fertilized with a light dose of veg nutrients.

The wait begins ... ?
 

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ReVeg is coming along! The indica-leaning plants are much less willing to grow new leaves and appear dormant, but I think it's just beginning to push through. Meanwhile, these two plants are taking off! Enjoy some wonky bud porn. ?
 

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Ras Mountain

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The Phoenix is risen from the ashes.
 

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Alphatoy

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? Why are your plants growing like they are and they have odd ball leaves :mask:
 

Ras Mountain

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Well for one they just went through a re-veg. I'm saving them to use as mother plants. Second, I didn't realize how similar to hydroponics it is to grow in Coco and was trying to let them dry for several days in between watering just like with soil. Well, the roots were oxygen deprived and they all stalled to a degree.

Now I am watering every other day with fresh, oxygenated water and have plants just spilling out of the tent.
 

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Alphatoy

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?now those look like a great bunch of plants 18 plants I count Ras Mountain you will have to do a bunch of puffing or you will be making a bunch of hash. :mask:
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Ras Mountain

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Or will be culling significantly once those clones are established. I only want like, 8.
 


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