Soil My 2nd grow, Red poison and Super Skunk

Stef420!

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Red poison looking good?? Tommorow is the start of week 3, what node is it in, 3-4 node? Should I start feeding at 1/4 strength ?, thick stems on both, different than my last grow.95564489-48C7-40E3-902C-9201365245B0.jpeg2189CEFA-3FFC-4E4F-AE3B-143DA465DA24.jpegSuper skunk is looking good too, bit slower grower, weird color but I feel it’s gone fix it self in those new leavs like red poison, I also ordered a new ph meter HM Ph-80, cuz my cheap one is starting to get on my nerves from calibrating it evry time haha. 2485BB34-0D5E-4688-B46D-AF184CE76E20.jpegB7856E5A-DF5F-4A73-937C-75E800FB1199.jpeg
 

Stef420!

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Looks Great Stef420 I am going one day to try to get a red poison seed that's a good looking plant looks like she likes her feeding, GREAT pictures I like that side shot
Ye she’s looking good, I hope she produces, red purple flowers, they say 90% of specimens have red/ purple flowers, didn’t feed em anything yet just water, but ye I love the new growth on her.
 

Stef420!

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Red poison 2 days before the start of week 4 on Sunday, first signs of pre flower/pistils, and it’s already giving off this really sweet musky skunk smell, smells great. My last feeding was two days ago, gave her half strength, should I increase the feeding ?
And sunshine do u see any issues/ deffincencies ?
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MastaJazz

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that side branches grow good, good potential, as for biobizz and your soil is fresh light bbiz mix, and looking at their leave colour i wouldnt give em nutes, maybe 1 time water then feed 1ml max ? they look like everything is enough as for me.. they 100 ready to blow!
how much ltr pots? this grow i wanna reuse soil from critical.. 13 lts second hand biobizz light mix))))
 

Stef420!

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I’m using 3 gallon pot for red poison, and a 3.5 gallon pot for super skunk,
So 11, 13 ltrs, sweet seeds said strong main stem and flexible branches for red poison, I think I’m going to train the branches before they go on full stretch. I wanna see some new good growth on super skunk, looks like it has Tabbaco mosaic virus idk form those fan leaves, both are growing 9 finger fan leaves for their new growth I’m looking forward to that never seen those haha up close.
 

Stef420!

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So I woke up this morning and saw some issues/ I see a claw effect going on some new growth fan leafs, but I don’t think it’s nitrogen toxicity cuz I only fed them 1ml throughout their whole life, I’m watering every 3 days, ph 6.7, I see some small discoloration also, underwatering ? Overwatering I’m really not sure what’s going on, today is 3rd days without water, soil is dry 2 inches down, but little moist deeper down. ??? I’m using .5 ltrs and sharing that with both plants. Takes 3-4 days for soil to dry with that amount of water. Any help greatly appreciated.
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MastaJazz

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yean, intence green, just feel the weight is it light and dry 2-3sm.. and just water em maybe next time too.. looks like soil gives em enough stuff, just my thoughts bro.
what ph you've bought? you like how it works?
 

Stef420!

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yean, intence green, just feel the weight is it light and dry 2-3sm.. and just water em maybe next time too.. looks like soil gives em enough stuff, just my thoughts bro.
what ph you've bought? you like how it works?
I use general hydroponics ph down, and for my meter Hm ph 80, it is working good, tried to find a good affordable meter, lots good reviews with this one, 40-50$
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Alphatoy

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The phenotype of an organism depends on which genes are dominant and on the interaction between genes and environment. all plants have phenotype it just depends which generic gene it takes.
 

Alphatoy

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The Claw!
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Anyone who has played around with hydro will probably run into this problem, but what the hell is it? and why do you see it linked with so many different problems to grows with seemingly no problems?

If you think about a common cause for a case of the Claw eg high temps, what happens? Temperature at the root zone rises to a level that causes conductivity and ph to soar at the root zone to dangerous and sometimes fatal levels. That is it in a nut shell.
The ways that problem can be produced is many and varied, as are the end results.
Root bound? sure, fresh nute solution can't wash away root exudes OR provide fresh oxygen around the root zone, conductivity rises, the Claw starts
not enough oxygen at the root zone, conductivity rises, the Claw
Times between flood and drain too far apart, root zone temp rises, conductivity rises,..
Not calibrating your truncheons, insufficient watering times, res solution too low and temps rise marginally during middle of the day,... the list goes on, but the end result is still the same.
This gives credence to why big pots are a good idea, why we should change/measure nutes correctly, why a big res constantly topped off is a good idea etc etc but really comes back to the number one item of importance and that is too keep the root zone at a optimum state BIG POTS this also happens growing Orchidsdoh.gif
 
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Stef420!

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The Claw!
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Anyone who has played around with hydro will probably run into this problem, but what the hell is it? and why do you see it linked with so many different problems to grows with seemingly no problems?

If you think about a common cause for a case of the Claw eg high temps, what happens? Temperature at the root zone rises to a level that causes conductivity and ph to soar at the root zone to dangerous and sometimes fatal levels. That is it in a nut shell.
The ways that problem can be produced is many and varied, as are the end results.
Root bound? sure, fresh nute solution can't wash away root exudes OR provide fresh oxygen around the root zone, conductivity rises, the Claw starts
not enough oxygen at the root zone, conductivity rises, the Claw
Times between flood and drain too far apart, root zone temp rises, conductivity rises,..
Not calibrating your truncheons, insufficient watering times, res solution too low and temps rise marginally during middle of the day,... the list goes on, but the end result is still the same.
This gives credence to why big pots are a good idea, why we should change/measure nutes correctly, why a big res constantly topped off is a good idea etc etc but really comes back to the number one item of importance and that is too keep the root zone at a optimum state BIG POTS this also happens growing OrchidsView attachment 6806
So my temps during day stay around 74-77f in my grow tent, at night lowest it’s been is 65f, not sure if those fluctuating temps is causing that? The temp of my soil is always cool not even warm, I calibrate my ph meter every week , I don’t have a tds, ppm meter, maybe that can also be the cause? Should I get one or is it to late ?... only thing I can think of is nitrogen toxicity, insufficient watering or I’m under watering, i understand its gone get root bound later on but it’s not right now. What do you I think I should do, and by truncheon you mean this ?01FF324D-61E0-43F6-AEA9-6D3EF6F9D582.png
 

Stef420!

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how is the red poison doing ?
Well I kinda fucked up giving her a saline solution/salt ?, 2 percent saline solution foliar spray cuz it looked like magnesium deficiency, and I left bunch of white spots on leaves, but she is stretching a lot just gave her just water today, not liking my grow at the moment she’s gone fix herself I think but ye, I know she’s gone grow good I’m not that worried since it’s my last grow here in Italy till I come back to states in two months I’ll have a proper setup and instruments, she stretched 1 inch in two days. That dirtiness on the foil is just from spraying water, trying keep the humidity a lil more up. It’s for my personal use here in Italy after all, 2nd attempt at growing, when I come back ima have a lil Photoperiod setup, just to mess with the plants , like overwater them on purpose or give them deficiencies on purpose too learn more.10D06FE7-56CC-49A2-816B-6672588CCB8F.jpegD1BBE108-4166-4D74-898D-EBC1813D249C.jpeg
 
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