Question Which setup do you prefer?

Fckit712

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What do you mean when you say put in drainage holes? You're going to let the water leak through the floor? What about collection?

Definitely cut one more small intake hole on the side wall near the bottom, that's important. I think I see just one by that clip fan. It's a good start. You're almost there!
Yeah I was gonna cut drainage holes and have a trap underneath for now. Or have some sort of collection tray under my flower pot. Ok I'll add another intake hole to the side. Thank you!
 

Fckit712

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What do you mean when you say put in drainage holes? You're going to let the water leak through the floor? What about collection?

Definitely cut one more small intake hole on the side wall near the bottom, that's important. I think I see just one by that clip fan. It's a good start. You're almost there!
Also, how big should I make that additional intake hole? Should it be the same as the other? Which is 4"4" I think.
Cheers
 

Fckit712

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Ok im almost ready to run it. Just need to finish up some areas where light is seeping out by only the doors. The light is very minimal. Can I run it like this or should I get every tiny area I see. And added another air intake section on the side. Also, my Bloom plus 1000 gets hot real quick. I know they get hot, but will the fan and exhaust help to keep it cool? Stoked!
Cheers
 

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Ok im almost ready to run it. Just need to finish up some areas where light is seeping out by only the doors. The light is very minimal. Can I run it like this or should I get every tiny area I see. And added another air intake section on the side. Also, my Bloom plus 1000 gets hot real quick. I know they get hot, but will the fan and exhaust help to keep it cool? Stoked!
Cheers
The exhaust pulling air in through the lower intakes and exhausting from the top will help the heat escape. You can also put another small clip fan blowing directly onto the light to help the light to run at a lower temp. That will help extend the life of the light, but the heat is still blowing off inside the grow volume, so you're depending on the exhaust system to keep the interior of the volume cool by bringing in new air through the intakes.

Take care to construct the intakes so that light from the room does not get inside the grow volume. During the dark period, it needs to be totally dark inside the volume. Minimize light leaking in as much as possible.

The build is looking great! I'm excited to see what you do in there.
 

Fckit712

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The exhaust pulling air in through the lower intakes and exhausting from the top will help the heat escape. You can also put another small clip fan blowing directly onto the light to help the light to run at a lower temp. That will help extend the life of the light, but the heat is still blowing off inside the grow volume, so you're depending on the exhaust system to keep the interior of the volume cool by bringing in new air through the intakes.

The build is looking great! I'm excited to see what you do in there.
Thank you very much appreciate it! Yeah another fan sounds good. I'll grab a 4 inch fan tomorrow to keep on the light. And run it a few days just to test the temp and humidity where its at, and if I'm good.......... Off to the races! Here's a night shot from the other night, but didnt have the second intake cut yet.
 

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Fckit712

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Thank you very much appreciate it! Yeah another fan sounds good. I'll grab a 4 inch fan tomorrow to keep on the light. And run it a few days just to test the temp and humidity where its at, and if I'm good.......... Off to the races! Here's a night shot from the other night, but didnt have the second intake cut yet.
And the doors have reflective material as well now, so when shut the whole thing is covered from 5' down.
 

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Was able to score a Spider Farmer SF2000 (200w +/- 5%) Light for $50. My light requirements are definitely covered now, and dimmable which will make it a little easier on me during different stages. Still need to build a swamp cooler to see if I can bring the heat down. Still at like 91f during the day and 80f-82f at night. Lowest its been was 78f, but its getting hotter as I write this........... Any thoughts on swamp coolers is very welcome.
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Was able to score a Spider Farmer SF2000 (200w +/- 5%) Light for $50. My light requirements are definitely covered now, and dimmable which will make it a little easier on me during different stages. Still need to build a swamp cooler to see if I can bring the heat down. Still at like 91f during the day and 80f-82f at night. Lowest its been was 78f, but its getting hotter as I write this........... Any thoughts on swamp coolers is very welcome.
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Dont leaving your air out fan constantly cool the area down enough ? It should do, are you sure you have the fan set up right? You may need to make another small intake opposite side and furthest away from the other one so some good flow of fresh and cool air can come in and excange with the air out. Perhaps the other air in should be on the door that dont sit on the side you air in is currently. The fan pulling air out should force cool fresh air in through the intakes. Get another small clip on fan like the one you have and put that one up above your lights so it mixes up the air faster, it should help even out the temperature abit more.
 

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If your extraction is defo set up correctly and still dont cool down enough with the extra intake (do your other intake as low down as you can with out comprimising the structure) try your extraction on with out the fleace on the filter. If that helps and works you can just stick a thin stocking over the filter to keep it from pulling in dust instead of the fleace jacket should make it easier for the extractor to work abit more better as its a tiny bit less resistence. Also double check that your extraction dont have settings that make it slower and faster. So far your doing great, I like it, just got to get everything working effectively now. Will be nice seeing this up and running.
 

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I think it's mostly being on the back porch, and being an average of 90f to 95f outside. Humidity stays at 60%-74% thus far. Exhaust fan (rated at 230cfm flow) is blowing what I think is really good. Only thing I haven't tried is removing the filter for now, but still doesn't solve my issue for flowering, if it does bring the temp down. Here's a pic of the box, without the thick lining I made at the bottom for overflow/excess water runoff.
Dont leaving your air out fan constantly cool the area down enough ? It should do, are you sure you have the fan set up right? You may need to make another small intake opposite side and furthest away from the other one so some good flow of fresh and cool air can come in and excange with the air out. Perhaps the other air in should be on the door that dont sit on the side you air in is currently. The fan pulling air out should force cool fresh air in through the intakes. Get another small clip on fan like the one you have and put that one up above your lights so it mixes up the air faster, it should help even out the temperature abit more.
 

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Fckit712

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If your extraction is defo set up correctly and still dont cool down enough with the extra intake (do your other intake as low down as you can with out comprimising the structure) try your extraction on with out the fleace on the filter. If that helps and works you can just stick a thin stocking over the filter to keep it from pulling in dust instead of the fleace jacket should make it easier for the extractor to work abit more better as its a tiny bit less resistence. Also double check that your extraction dont have settings that make it slower and faster. So far your doing great, I like it, just got to get everything working effectively now. Will be nice seeing this up and running.
Fan/exhaust has settings (high, med, low) and I've kept it on high. Thank you for the encouragement, and kind words. Greatly appreciate all the help.
 

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I think it's mostly being on the back porch, and being an average of 90f to 95f outside. Humidity stays at 60%-74% thus far. Exhaust fan (rated at 230cfm flow) is blowing what I think is really good. Only thing I haven't tried is removing the filter for now, but still doesn't solve my issue for flowering, if it does bring the temp down. Here's a pic of the box, without the thick lining I made at the bottom for overflow/excess water runoff.
Ah, I understand. The air outside the box is very warm right now, so will be difficult to cool down. You could try this depending on space ect. If you could have your air intakes pulling through tube ducting (or maybe make the secondary intake a tube ducting type). Have a decent section of the ducting siting in a suitable tank maybe a small icebox/beer cooler thats full of ice water. The air will pull into the duct opening and as it travels down the duct through the area the ducts are surrounded by ice water it will defo cool it down before entering the box. Maybe you can play with that idea and make something that fits/hooks onto the back of the box. Its basically the same way water coolled systems work
 

Fckit712

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Ah, I understand. The air outside the box is very warm right now, so will be difficult to cool down. You could try this depending on space ect. If you could have your air intakes pulling through tube ducting (or maybe make the secondary intake a tube ducting type). Have a decent section of the ducting siting in a suitable tank maybe a small icebox/beer cooler thats full of ice water. The air will pull into the duct opening and as it travels down the duct through the area the ducts are surrounded by ice water it will defo cool it down before entering the box. Maybe you can play with that idea and make something that fits/hooks onto the back of the box. Its basically the same way water coolled systems work
That's pretty much my plan with the swamp cooler. I'm gonna set up ducting running from the cooler directly fastened to the lowest intake on the left side, on the outside, and leave the fans where they're at for now. Also, gonna line the swamp cooler with a cooler bag I have, and hopefully will only have to replace the gallon jugs once or twice per day. We'll see............
 

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Ok 1 step closer........ New lights up, and way better coverage for the whole box. Keep it movin
 

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Fckit712

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Had no choice but to move it inside....... Now I'm right at 77-79f, 55% hum........... I think I'll be good to run this now. I think I'm gonna try Tropicana Poison XL Auto to give her a go............ And to try something a little easier first, and then move to photos.
 

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Reznfingeez

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Had no choice but to move it inside....... Now I'm right at 77-79f, 55% hum........... I think I'll be good to run this now. I think I'm gonna try Tropicana Poison XL Auto to give her a go............ And to try something a little easier first, and then move to photos.
You have fresh air pulling from outside? Also are you exhausting continuously? Just curious because Im constantly exhausting and pulling in fresh outdoor air
 

Fckit712

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You have fresh air pulling from outside? Also are you exhausting continuously? Just curious because Im constantly exhausting and pulling in fresh outdoor air
My fans on full time, on high, just pumping my ac'd air in and out. I tried the exhaust on Medium and the temp stayed right about 80f, so I tried at High and its been 77f-79f so I kept it there. And the filter has been disconnected. With it connected I stay right about 80f. During flowering im gonna have to drop the AC a little to keep it a little cooler in there.
 

Reznfingeez

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My fans on full time, on high, just pumping my ac'd air in and out. I tried the exhaust on Medium and the temp stayed right about 80f, so I tried at High and its been 77f-79f so I kept it there. And the filter has been disconnected. With it connected I stay right about 80f. During flowering im gonna have to drop the AC a little to keep it a little cooler in there.
I dont use a carbon filter . My temps are around 82 and about 70% humidity. I just find the filters get plugged up with junk so I opt to run without. All good . You just need to consider exhaust. Especially during later flower. I highly suggest exhausting continuously or at least every 3o seconds or so using an ink bird humidistat . Just my opinion.
 

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Had no choice but to move it inside....... Now I'm right at 77-79f, 55% hum........... I think I'll be good to run this now. I think I'm gonna try Tropicana Poison XL Auto to give her a go............ And to try something a little easier first, and then move to photos.
That is a slick setup you made for sure
 


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