Organic Auto Fem - Critical, Blueberry. BioBizz Light Mix, Cob LED 50w 3500k + 6500k lamps, 60x60x120 box

MastaJazz

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So heres my setup. Its my first time i use biobizz soil and nutes Grow+Bloom.
Its also first time when i use this COB light from seed.
And the weather is just right this days, its gonna be high humidity for sure till winter, and low temps outside will decrease temps in my box.
I think it will be something!

10,12 litres pots (also using first time)
I got rabbit hare expcrement juice. (i collect it in wild beautiful places and put them in water for 1 year, anaerobic)
Blueberry's pot got 80% Biobizz light mix + 20% local soils mix + some peat moss.
Chriical's pot is about 50%/50%.

I moved light higher than usual, so now its 70 sm.

my box doesnt loog so gorgeous and inspiring bud i did my best)
Critical showed up couple hours ago ( bigger pot), BB still struglin (smaller pot)
I put MJ cap to give her maybe some energy or some..
If any suggestions, im looking forward.
 

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MastaJazz

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nice plant sacks. tents screaming for more lumens or is it very hot where you are ?
Thanks for comming IBS!
yeah, i think one more 50w cob will be exact right for my 60x60 sm tent, i heard 10000lumens for one plant needed. So its about 12000 lumens in this COB. I wanted 3 plants for this run, but for this space i think 3 plants will be to close.
Its 35-40C during summer here, but 1 thing i found this year - some cataclysms really changed seasons lenght and for ex. this summer delayed for 1 month, and autumn came fast. So in our countries we had only 2 month summer, and wild birds came to early this year also.. I never saw this significant changes before. Its sad that when ppl will try to prevent worse changes it it can be to late.
 
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Dr. Longbeard

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Always be careful @MastaJazz when you bring in native soil from outside for and indoor grow. You can bring in all sorts of unwanted bugs. A lot of soil you buy from hydro stores the companies bake the soil to kill unwanted pathogens and bug eggs etc. As your grow is up and running and you water your going to start to give the perfect conditions for egg to hatch from the unwanted bud. Some you get lucky. But just the heads up to look out for. You can buy predatory bugs as a preventative nematodes are awesome and kill all sorts of things. But definitely look for any activity and have something on hand to get it before it runs ramped on you. Not to freak you out or anything. But just a heads up. I've seen people do it before and not have a problem and seen others with nothing but problems.
 

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@Dr. Longbeard

Thank you man! its just what i was thinking about, cuz its better to prevent before than fight them. I killed 2 white bugs just now, it was kinda white mite, moving fast but not jumping, i got to check them in mycroscope.
So im thinking what is the better anti pests untoxic choice. I also got some agent for pests from local shop, which as they saing - dessolves by it self in the soil after some time. im not sure if its really dessolves but..
I rmmbr 1 guy used neem oil and it was good, as his reports shows.
And soil i mixed with biobizz is not from outside, i've bought it in our local stores, but thats a real help brother, thank you!
 
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@Dr. Longbeard

Thank you man! its just what i was thinking about, cuz its better to prevent before than fight them. I killed 2 white bugs just now, it was kinda white mite, moving fast but not jumping, i got to check them in mycroscope.
So im thinking what is the better anti pests untoxic choice. I also got some agent for pests from local shop, which as they saing - dessolves by it self in the soil after some time. im not sure if its really dessolves but..
I rmmbr 1 guy used neem oil and it was good, as his reports shows.
And soil i mixed with biobizz is not from outside, i've bought it in our local stores, but thats a real help brother, thank you!
I got ya now local soil meant bought locally ? ye neem works well it kinda smells like garlic or something to me. Neem is systemic though some people don't like to use it. There is a hot pepper spray you can make
 

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thats good, i'll check pepper spray thanks for nature way of doing it, i think we all need to do it that way. im checking my soil and i catched 1 bug, and as mycroscope showed its a mite (check the video https://instagram.com/p/BnJr1pglMHz/ ), so i killed about 5 of same individuals)) by burnin them with lighter.. all i can do for now)) no panic but still thinking if i use my local shop anti pest thing. So i'll check what you saying thanks! @Dr. Longbeard

Blueberry showed up today morning, Critical showed up 13 hours earlier then BB.
But BB had bigger leaves then C.

I sprayed soil couple times today with phd water 6.5.
Yestarday it was water +humus+hare manure juice. so i sprayed it on soil and before lights of i sprayed the ladies.
I thought its all good but its not)) cuz mites showed up today. thats was unexpected to see mite x60 bigger, especially when you see them moving its causes shuddering and you see this beast which wont stop. dreadful sight.

As the seed from my previous grow plant didnt popped up, the reason i think - its raw, and should dry out abit, cuz its to fresh, 1month ago i cut that mother plant. So i took smaller but darker seed from same plant and looks like unpopped seed has really tough cover.

Now its 18/6 light but as they grow more i want to give them more hours of light. about 22.

So just a mite thing made some shit today. I got local shop pests solution which is insect-acaricide, they say its untoxic for ppl , but its works only with mature mites.
 

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Sunshine

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Good to hear that the Blueberry and Critical have popped! ? Hopefully the start of something awesome! ?
Are both strains autos? (I ask as the critical says auto critical on the label but the blueberry doesn't say auto).
 

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hah)) good day @Sunshine ! thx for comming bro! yes, they both auto fems.
+1 thing, my previous grow auto fem plant gave me seeds, 1 seed popped up today. so as you said once its S1. so I'll put it in soil.
Im looking for mites all the time, pot i have for S1 seed got lot of mites, its terrible. And i saw couple of them in Critical pot, cuz its mixed with our shops soil((( S1 soil is completely this soils mix , no biobizz.
 

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Sup FC!

Here's day 4 from seed. They doing good, got some low humidity in box - 45-50. temp 25 C. so i put a cups on and a airpump in, to airate water and maintain humidity.
I burned about 15 spider mites (while they run on soil) still not used no anti mite agents. There is no sings on the plants so as i see some white points on leaves or some i'll use it.
Gave them pHd water yesterday, and spray soil and plants with it. As the soil dries fast as for me, never had that high aeration soil. cool. (also that PC fan dries the soil)

Strange thing.. S1 seed popped up... but as i put it in soil with mites, and about 24 hours later i decided to put that full of mites local shops soil to the oven to burn them. theres is no biobizz, there was a lot of this mites. So when i took the seed from soil - it stays the same condition as i put it in soil 24 hours ago, means seeds opened and little piece of root showed up, and nothings changed with it.. so as i burned this full of mites soil (i know it kills all good bacteries in it, but i had to) i put this seed back and lets see...
about 2 days and i water them with some biobizz grow just to make them familiar, less then 1 ml.

I got a lot of time now, so im meditate on them.. day and night, small plants - much love
 

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MastaJazz

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whatup FC!

Day 8 from seed, time flies, today i fed them 1st time, with 1,5mm biobiz grow + 3 drops of selfmade hare manure juice. As i know rabbits manure is rich with nitrogen, its def brings unbalance in biobizz nute mix so im careful. Just in time cuz they look light green on the side of leaves. Hope this 1st feeding will help

Critical starts to grow faster then BB, beast, and shes a princess)) I also saw a purple colours on her upper leaves
Ladybug came to check how they feel today, also she chilled out, prepared and washed herself as she had to check all plants in my house)) its a lot

if somebody had experience with anaerobic compost tea i got some questions pls PM
 

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MastaJazz

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Sup FC!
Long story short, in the begining i had a troubles with yellowing, it was to much, you can see it starts on post above, i guess it was Ph issues.
Thats a great experience, its starts with mites as i said, Critical was surrounded by them from day 1, but nothing could stop her, so im admiring. (i mixed biobizz with some soil i bought here in her mix, thats why only she had mites, Blueberry have only Biobizz soil) ,I didnt use any chemicals, i only sprayed her with onion tea.
I checked Biobizz soil, its more acidic, i put it in 7ph water, and after couple of hours ph was about 6.2, so from the beginning i gave them ph 6 to 6.5, so i assume they were getting around 5.5+, i think its to acidic for soil, they can get N, but can't get Cal and Mag.
Also Ive tried bending first time. (blueberry)
S1 upper leaves looks to skinny, i fed her yesterday so we'll see. its def P and K defficiency as she has purple branches.

Temp day 25-28c / night 21c. humid 55day/70 night
20/4 light
Space? im thinking how i will cope with them in this small jungle box) i have white widow germed today to try in coco, im def sould stop planting new ones))

By the way, Blueberry didnt showed sex yet (35 day), so i got 2 phototypes (BB + Chu) and a peppers gang)

Any thoughts apreciated!
Peace!
 

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Sunshine

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Good to hear the mites have been dealt with for the most part.
You did well to navigate your early issues, they look like they're growing nicely now!
Blueberry didnt showed sex yet (35 day)
It's not absolutely essential to wait until they show sex before flowering, remember when you switch to flowering they'll double/triple in size and you don't want to run out of space ;) Also if you flip soon you could have fresh flowers in time for xmas and new year! :party: Thanks for sharing @MastaJazz!
 

MastaJazz

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Good to know bro @Sunshine
The thing is - i bought auto seeds, but they sent me 1 phototype as we see) so thats unexpected, dont know how to mix them in one box... (

I put a white widow auto fem seed into a coco. I washed coco with clean water before that.. but im still not sure when i start to feed her.
I only have biobizz nutes grow and bloom.
 

Sunshine

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The thing is - i bought auto seeds, but they sent me 1 phototype as we see) so thats unexpected, dont know how to mix them in one box
Yes bit of a tricky one that. Ideally two seperate spaces but if you only have one area then flower on 13/11.
I put a white widow auto fem seed into a coco. I washed coco with clean water before that.. but im still not sure when i start to feed her.
I only have biobizz nutes grow and bloom.
Go easy with the biobizz and start at 1/4 of the strength they say, you can always up the dose if needed. In terms of when to start feeding wait until the coco plant has 3 or 4 nodes first and she should be fine my friend.
 

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@Sunshine Thanks brother!
By the way i remember you said that that blueberry's label didnt say its auto)) but as i was sure all seeds ive bought were autos so i didnt pay much attention to label and what you said. So you was right bro) cuz Blueberry showed sex today (41 day), 2 days ago i started reducing light hours, so maybe thats why she reacts fast and showed sex.. who knows..
Critical has a lots of stigmas already, flowerin all the way, i let him chill under the sun about 4 hours a day..
And white widow seadling in coco grows to slow, as its my firts time with coco im not sure whats wrong.. she looks like 2 day seedling, when shes 6.
i'll upload pics later!
 

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Whats good in the hood FC?

1. We got white widow in coco, it was a small seed, popped quick, i did everything right to prepare coco, but the progress still to slow. watered one time when i put her in coco. She needs help?
2. Chronic 20 day and Purple 14 day (autofems). Purple had an accident during transplantin (( my сlampsy ass made her lose a lot of her roots as lower part of soil fall down when i took soil from the cup .. but she was strongest from beginning, and she showed no drooping next day after accident, always reaching. And i never saw any of my plant showed branches to early. My bad, i was hurrying, thats aint right to rush in this things! I think she could be the same size as chronic if i did everything carefully.
3. Blueberry doin good, she and Critical dry out faster now. Smells amaizing as she starts preflower. Unfortunately had to cut 2 big leaves to open the the way for side branches.
4. Critical autofem, for 6 days made 20 sm, im trying to track his height)) donno if its not enough light of just a normall growth in preflower.. Fed her today with 2mm Biogrow, 2mm Bbloom, some humus, enzymes and a little bannana extract or juice self made... So my question is, compare to reports of growers, their PPMs are x5 more then mine, even if i add nutes according to biobizz schedule.. so my nutemix PPM is 400. when somebody has 1200 or more.. didnt checked runoff yet. Plants doing fine, but this question comes every time when i check PPM)) or maybe my TDS is a liar..
Thats all fellas.. much love to our plants! Have a good day!
 

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Sunshine

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Cool garden @MastaJazz, I think I spotted a chili plant in the background of one of the pics too ??
Let the white widow dry out nicely and in a week she'll start to grow quickly ?
The Blueberry looks excellent!!! You could easily take a couple of cuttings from the lower branches ;)
I think the Critical Auto is just going through the stretch, she should stop stretching after a couple of weeks and start to concentrate on flowering.
So my question is, compare to reports of growers, their PPMs are x5 more then mine, even if i add nutes according to biobizz schedule.. so my nutemix PPM is 400. when somebody has 1200 or more.. didnt checked runoff yet. Plants doing fine, but this question comes every time when i check PPM)) or maybe my TDS is a liar..
You're going the right way about it, if the plants are happy at 400 then stick to that, if you added at the rate on the biobizz schedule the plants would probably be sick.
Thanks for sharing, things are looking good, won't be long now until you're smoking some delicious flowers ??
 


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