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Patriot Bud

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Total cannabis virgin here, with the exception of a few edibles I had on a recent trip to Boulder :)

I'm an older dude, starting to experience the pains and stresses of age. I pretty much hate modern medicine and their pill mill mentality. I'm thinking of growing a couple of plants a year in or around my vegetable gardens. I have several questions and look forward to combing through this forum for answers. To start, do's and don'ts for outdoor grows, best plants, where to get seeds, best strains for my personal needs, etc.

Herbs aren't legal in my state, yet. However, agricultural hemp is just getting started as well as hemp oils and similar products, but it seems a little too commercial and I'm not sure if I trust big herb any more than big pharma.

I realize newbies can be a pain in the ass, so apologies up front.
 
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?Howdy Patriot Bud Welcome to FC if herbs are not legal in your state I believe I would get me a grow tent and grow inside if you can even growing 1 plant caught out side is prison time inside you have a bit more control over your grow. at the top of the page you can see BUY SEEDS they sell a number of strains of seeds and they can get them to you. because I believe outside grows are easily recognized this is my thought on the subject And we Love newbies :heart_eyes:
 
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Welcome to FC @Patriot Bud!
Patriot Bud said:
I pretty much hate modern medicine and their pill mill mentality.
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I feel exactly the same.
Patriot Bud said:
To start, do's and don'ts for outdoor grows, best plants
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For outdoor you want hardy outdoor varieties that are short flowering and will mature before the end of the season where you are. Feminized seeds provide guaranteed females who's flowering is induced by the shorter day lengths (photoperiod). Autoflowering feminized seeds on the other hand will flower and finish typically within 60-90 days regardless of day length as they flower automatically so can be put out as soon as the weather is good and mature in the best weather, rather than at the end of the season as the photoperiod does not trigger flowering in autos. Another benefit of autos is that they don't get huge so can remain fairly inconspicuous.
Having said all that, @Alphatoy is right, indoor is more secure and one plant in a small setup will give you plenty of medicine and the bonus is that you have complete control.
Once again welcome to the family and feel free to ask any questions that 'crop' up :)
 
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Thanks all. This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I need the voices of reason because no one has a clue about my plans and I have no plan to tell anyone. I have a little experience with moonshine so I know a little about staying on the lowdown.

I get the concern about growing outdoors but I live in a reasonable secluded area. Not at all Agrestic :) Indoors for me would definitely get a lot more attention from visitors. No basement and not a lot of private space.

My thoughts were "hidden in plain sight" in among all the other plants in the garden. I generally have climbing vegetables as high as 7 feet tall. Anyway, just a little more information about my situation.

BTW, does anyone know of any other plants that may not do well near herb? I do a lot of companion planting. For example, beans love potatoes and corn but hate garlic and onions.
 
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?I don't know where you are from but outside grow is almost over here in the USA cold fronts are coming down into even lower Texas so outside grow would probably be halted until the spring I believe but you will be able to get your seeds and be ready. I do not believe any other plant would have a restriction on cannabis (it is a weed and weeds would grows every right.) ?
 
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Welcome Patriot Bud! With your gardening experience you will do great. For ease, fast results, and stealth, I'd recommend autoflower seeds. You could easily get two harvests if you have a good growing season. I just did some indoor with some great beginner / medical strains. White Widow, Northern Lights, and Blue Dream. I was intending to do them outdoors but to many eyes around. Hidden in plain site works well I've experienced from a good friend. It really depends on the company you have around and the landscaping. Autoflower strains have come a long way and you should be able to find a great variety for whatever symptoms your concerned with. Good Luck and keep us informed as you go. Half the fun of this site is watching how others do it and constant learning.
 
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Jason said:
Welcome Patriot Bud! With your gardening experience you will do great. For ease, fast results, and stealth, I'd recommend autoflower seeds. You could easily get two harvests if you have a good growing season. I just did some indoor with some great beginner / medical strains. White Widow, Northern Lights, and Blue Dream. I was intending to do them outdoors but to many eyes around. Hidden in plain site works well I've experienced from a good friend. It really depends on the company you have around and the landscaping. Autoflower strains have come a long way and you should be able to find a great variety for whatever symptoms your concerned with. Good Luck and keep us informed as you go. Half the fun of this site is watching how others do it and constant learning.
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Thanks! The type of strains you recommend are definitely helpful. I never realized there were so many. I'm also curious about roles of THC vs CBD. Where we live, there is a .3% THC limit for the legal stuff. But I've noticed in documentaries and in reading that they often use both in medical weed. I have a ton to learn in a short time. I'd like to start growing in the Spring. I need to learn, not only about preferred strains and growing, but also harvesting, drying, preserving, using, etc. I'm very interested in oils. Seems to me that oil would be one of the most accurate ways to medicate. If not, I hope others will contribute.
 
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Patriot Bud said:
Thanks! The type of strains you recommend are definitely helpful. I never realized there were so many. I'm also curious about roles of THC vs CBD. Where we live, there is a .3% THC limit for the legal stuff. But I've noticed in documentaries and in reading that they often use both in medical weed. I have a ton to learn in a short time. I'd like to start growing in the Spring. I need to learn, not only about preferred strains and growing, but also harvesting, drying, preserving, using, etc. I'm very interested in oils. Seems to me that oil would be one of the most accurate ways to medicate. If not, I hope others will contribute.
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You've come to the right place. You can find all the answers or access to the answers you are looking for here. Gotta love the world wide web! I'm just loading some photos right now of my 4th grow ever and it is getting very close to harvest. I grew some autos in the same room as the feminized with only the 12 / 12 light cycle so my yield was pretty small. That is one thing I have experienced with autos, the plants I've grown have always been smaller. That being said higher yields is being bred into autos along with lots of other excellent traits and they were very quick to flower and finish. Been consuming some of them while waiting for the fems to finish. As for THC and CBD, study the entourage effect and the endocannabinoid system. Its mostly personal preference but there are nice benefit to both and I find they compliment each other well.
 
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Never had to worry what other plants did not like herb, usually the other way around. The biggest worry is at the end of the season, herb stays green while other plants are in decline. Anything that grows taller or overshadows herb can be a problem, leaves, seeds, and bugs tend to stick to herb and cause mold. too much fertilizer causes herb to delay flowering and grow too tall, you could probly blend herb into a row of okra so that25-oct-11-19.JPG only the most experienced eyes could spot it.
 
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numberguyhandecrepitdigit said:
Never had to worry what other plants did not like herb, usually the other way around. The biggest worry is at the end of the season, herb stays green while other plants are in decline. Anything that grows taller or overshadows herb can be a problem, leaves, seeds, and bugs tend to stick to herb and cause mold. too much fertilizer causes herb to delay flowering and grow too tall, you could probly blend herb into a row of okra so thatView attachment 9713 only the most experienced eyes could spot it.
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Thanks! I was thinking okra also. Read a couple of years ago where lawdogs raided a guy's vegetable garden and pulled up all his okra
 
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One day two okras, who were best friends, were walking together down the street. They stepped off the curb and a speeding car came around the corner and ran one of them over.

The uninjured okra called 911 and helped his injured friend as best he was able. The injured okra was taken to emergency at the hospital and rushed into surgery.

After a long and agonizing wait, the doctor finally appeared. He told the uninjured okra, "I have good news, and I have bad news. The good news is that your friend is going to pull through."

"The bad news is that he's going to be a vegetable for the rest of his life".
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?BUT Patriot Bud The USA Is the United States Of America We Are Not A Socialist Country SORRY. We Have had Thousands of Patriots Fight and Die to be a United States Of America Not A Socialist State. ?? Wake Up I Myself served in the Air Force during Viet Nam I Am A Patriot.:grinning:
 
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Haven't been posting, but I have been lurking several of your posts and pics :)

Still a virgin. Still planning an outdoor grow this Summer, but still researching strains. The number of strains and crossed strains are mind boggling. I seem to keep coming back to White Widow, Blue Dream and Bubba Kush. However, when I get close to choosing a strain, I learn it's not autoflowering or some other characteristic that I've been advised to look for. Also, does $15 a seed sound about right? I've mostly been browsing the Buy Seeds section on this site. I realize I'm probably making it more complicated than it should be, but is there a simplified process?
 
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Autos are an excellent choice for your first outdoor but there is also no harm in trying a fast flowering outdoor variety either (dutch passion do some good fast and resilient outdoor ones such as passion #1 among others).

For the autos I'd go for cheaper options as it's your first grow, there are some decent ones to be found in the special offers section that don't cost an arm and a leg but should perform well. I think it would be a good idea to spread your bets and get one of the Auto mix packs see here and here, they work out at less than $3 a seed which is good value and you get to try a few different flavours. Any other questions just ask :)
 
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Sunshine said:
Autos are an excellent choice for your first outdoor but there is also no harm in trying a fast flowering outdoor variety either (dutch passion do some good fast and resilient outdoor ones such as passion #1 among others).

For the autos I'd go for cheaper options as it's your first grow, there are some decent ones to be found in the special offers section that don't cost an arm and a leg but should perform well. I think it would be a good idea to spread your bets and get one of the Auto mix packs see here and here, they work out at less than $3 a seed which is good value and you get to try a few different flavours. Any other questions just ask :)
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Thank you. I placed an order for one of the mixes. Can't wait to get started :)
 
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